Well the US had all of those "happy" dances going on a while back. How is this any different than Christendom "blessing" pagan objects so they are "holy?" More like Holy Crap!
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Oh how this religion has changed! Would this have been permitted 20 years ago??
by stuckinarut2 inhttps://m.facebook.com/100002613343180/posts/2271710659592690?sfns=mo.
would the old-timers even recognise this religion anymore?.
this is from one of the international conventions held this year.
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Crazy ass excuses
by Crazyguy2 inso it was brought up lately that my lack of faith is partially do to stories in the bible like the one in samuel where god kills david’s first born son.
the excuse i heard today wasn’t that god killed david’s son no he just didn’t bless him so then he died.
wtf!!!
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David killed a lot of people by disobeying God.
- Counted the Israelites - Did David die or get punished? No, 70,000 israelites died.
- Had sex with a married woman which is punishable by death for both - Did David die or Bathsheba? No. The child that didn't have a choice got killed.
- Killed Bathsheba's husband - Didn't die.
And let's not forget that God "rewarded" the two of them with Solomon who also got some freebies in life with all of his wives, chariots etc.
God is good to his "friends" but if you aren't, you can get instant death like the poor guy who touched the ark because it was tilting.
I can think of numerous excuses the WT has provided for God, as to why he was right in doing these things.
By the way, if you read the choices David had for punishment when he counted the nation, the first was having enemies come and fight them, the second was a famine. Both would have impacted David and his finances more than the plague he chose. And it doesn't appear that David thought he could possibly die. It's all good....
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Yeah that's critical thinking for you.
Elders tell WT about the abuse. They write it down. The gang knows about it.
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Animals living forever
by startingover indoes anyone know?
did jw's ever believe that animals will live forever in the paradise?
i was having a discussion with a jw friend and he said they did..
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I never believed that the animals would live forever. However, I wanted to have my pets to live forever because I loved them. The WT never promoted the idea that animals would live forever.
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“Bablyon the Great has Fallen”
by lastmanstanding inwhat have you not heard lately?.
.... no discussion on “babylon’s fall”.
by 1919 it was apparent that jehovah had passed judgment on christendom—and indeed on all false religion.
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They got around it by saying that "the waters have dried up" for babylon the great.
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Ladies First
by snugglebunny ini know a lady who says she feels demeaned if a man walks on the outside or opens a door for her or stands aside to let her pass.
i just think it's good manners.
being a gentleman has nothing to do with equality in my opinion..
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I like it when others think about me and hold a door open or help if things are going south.
I do the same for others.
If a man wants to be a gentleman that's fine with me.
Why discourage their old fashioned charm?
It makes their day and it doesn't cost you anything.
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Can someone help me with a question?
by Angelgirlnr1 ini am not a jehovahs witness, but i have family members who are.
and one of them is my cousin.
we talk now and again, and i love him very much, both him and his wife, and also my aunt and uncle, his parents.
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Yes they praised witnesses who had sold their businesses, houses etc. in order to preach more. When 1975 came and went with out Armageddon coming, for a few more years they still had a lingering hope. But the reality kicked in when the money they had gotten from those sales ran out.
There must have been many that wrote to the society about this. The society countered by mocking those who had followed their encouragement. I remember an assembly talk where the society said "there were those that in thinking that Armageddon was soon to come, ran up their credit cards thinking they would not have to pay it back. Hahaha." Then they chided the ones that had sold their houses etc. by saying "we aren't serving God for a date are we?"
Lately, they had a video that called the sincere followers in 1970's "spiritually weak" because they looked forward to a date. Yet it was the WT that published dates.
I was there in 1974 at a convention and remember the talk given on Sunday's keynote address.
"It has been 6,000 years since Adam was created. How much longer after that did Adam finish naming the animals? Not long (because supposedly there weren't as many animal "types" to name) How long after that was Eve created? We don't know, but certainly it wouldn't be long after Adam noticed that the animals had their mate, that he would feel lonely. How long after Eve was created, did they sin? Not long (because otherwise Eve would have gotten pregnant) So Brothers and Sisters, whether it is days, or months these things occurred, we know it won't be long for God to act and bring an end to this old world."
Of course, this isn't word for word, but it is how I remember it. The whole stadium was silent at the end of this talk.
The last push the society did like 8 years ago about the world being so close to the end, the owner of the sign shop I worked in, sold the business so she could pioneer. So they are very persuasive in getting people to follow their directions.
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2019 Convention = Josiah Drama
by John_Carter_1912 inhere's the josiah drama from the 2019 convention.
getting a weird twilight zone vibe from all of this!
part 1. https://rutube.ru/video/fc03713b9eeb01351e8de72e2f9679dc/?pl_type=user&pl_id=689813.
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I was going to watch it but, as soon as the voices start up, it just gives me the creeps.
The two boys playing "kings". The boy picks David. Yes his role model is David. He wants to be the fornicating and murdering king.
The adult actors are just creepy as well as the video. Just goes to show you the mind of the directors and producers and their intent.
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Breaking news: Update Darkspilver May 6th hearing
by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara inon may 6th, 2019 watch tower attorney paul polidoro faced off against anonymous reddit user darkspilver, represented by eff, the electronic frontier foundation.. link to youtube video with audio from may 6th hearing:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wzopjmzfco&feature=youtu.be.
polidoro, noted for his appearance in the supreme court case of watchtower versus stratton ohio, now represents watch tower of pennsylvania in their efforts to flush out the inside leak sources of documents, videos and images.. these documents and other sensitive information have been leaked to the public and reposted by dozens of individuals since 2017. watch tower is deeply concerned about the internal moles leaking this information, since much of it has been used by whistleblowers to reveal watch tower's private internal policies and procedures.. included in the leaks are publisher id and records management materials which reveal the extent of jehovah's witness data collection and management prodedures, including the destruction of documents.. jehovah's witnesses have come under intense scrutiny for their failure to report child abuse across the globe, not only in mandatory reporting states, but in every location where clergy members are not required to report.. the dangerous policies of the jehovah's witness organization have resulted in a significant movement among current and former members to expose the organization and force transparency.. current members with high-level access to watch tower documents have risked expulsion and legal recourse for their efforts.. the electronic frontier foundation's attorney alex moss represented the unidentified darkspilver redditor in defense of the motion to quash watch tower's subpoena to unmask his identity.. listen closely as both sides make their case, and the judge seeks to understand the issues involved.. freedom of speech versus alleged copyright infringement- you be the judge.
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Don't take your brother to court? Shouldn't they allow themselves to be wronged instead of going in the public court? Isn't it "all together a defeat?"
Therefore indeed it is already altogether a defeat for you that you have lawsuits among one another. Why not rather suffer wrong? Why not rather be defrauded? 1 cor 6:7
Oh that's right, that's only for the lowly Jw's. My brother in law was cheated out of thousands because of that scripture.
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Breaking news: Update Darkspilver May 6th hearing
by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara inon may 6th, 2019 watch tower attorney paul polidoro faced off against anonymous reddit user darkspilver, represented by eff, the electronic frontier foundation.. link to youtube video with audio from may 6th hearing:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wzopjmzfco&feature=youtu.be.
polidoro, noted for his appearance in the supreme court case of watchtower versus stratton ohio, now represents watch tower of pennsylvania in their efforts to flush out the inside leak sources of documents, videos and images.. these documents and other sensitive information have been leaked to the public and reposted by dozens of individuals since 2017. watch tower is deeply concerned about the internal moles leaking this information, since much of it has been used by whistleblowers to reveal watch tower's private internal policies and procedures.. included in the leaks are publisher id and records management materials which reveal the extent of jehovah's witness data collection and management prodedures, including the destruction of documents.. jehovah's witnesses have come under intense scrutiny for their failure to report child abuse across the globe, not only in mandatory reporting states, but in every location where clergy members are not required to report.. the dangerous policies of the jehovah's witness organization have resulted in a significant movement among current and former members to expose the organization and force transparency.. current members with high-level access to watch tower documents have risked expulsion and legal recourse for their efforts.. the electronic frontier foundation's attorney alex moss represented the unidentified darkspilver redditor in defense of the motion to quash watch tower's subpoena to unmask his identity.. listen closely as both sides make their case, and the judge seeks to understand the issues involved.. freedom of speech versus alleged copyright infringement- you be the judge.
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Why they didn't leave it in Jehovahs hands?
Best comment on the thread.